. this is about romney and big bird. >> i'm sorry, jim. i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i love pbs. i love big bird. actually like you too. but i'm not going to keep on spending money and borrowing money from china to pay for it, no. 1. >> is that harsh? >> it's harsh when we're focusing on big bird. but romney's point was that too much of our debt has been accumulated by china and other countries as well. what he didn't mention was that china was buying that up when george w. bush was president as well. but the fact that i had to point that out on the air tonight is an illustration of what barack obama didn't do. the president frankly should have been politely in his face, saying that's not accurate, just like the presentation about romney's health care program. the president should have merely said the governor is being a hypocrite. he did this in massachusetts. and the president frankly didn't do that tonight. i think that's the reason that people said that they gave the nod to mitt romney tonight. in the end, we've seen how people are going to vote in november. we've got two mo